Comments on: The Bloody Carnage in Manhunt 2

By: Carnifex

Carnifex — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:59:30 +0000

You know the best part about Manhunt 2? No one cares except for the media. It’s a crap game that’s not going to sell well because gamers don’t care.

PA talks about that in yesterday’s comic.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20071102.jpg

(warning, link contains adult language and situations. Also may be uncomfortable for men)

By: Nancy Cleveland

Nancy Cleveland — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:01:11 +0000

Thank you for that much, AE. It’s a given the manufacturer’s, retailers’ intent is to make money and I guess to each his/her own the definition of entertainment and that’s what I question. Not yours but in general…what do people these days consider entertainment and looking at DVD’s, video games, tv…the preponderance seems to be violence is the number one choice of manufacturers, producers and consumers. I really don’t blame games, music, movies for the violents world we live in, and I haven’t done so, here. But I do think we have, as a society, become inured, numbed that we think little of it so, being so prevalent in our lives and play would it be any wonder that it’s not too big a step for anyone…kids or otherwise…to use it as a resolution to a problem? Take the guy out on the video game…who does it hurt? Where are the consequences? Rape, murder on a tv show…two days later the victim is living happily ever after in another show, with the husband, three kids and a dog. Yes, we say, we believe our kids are good kids, never much of a problem, stays home playing his/her games…great. But look back through the last several years and a good percentage of the kids who committed violence against classmates were described by parents and neighbours as exactly that. Some were said to be “too quiet”…there are a lot of kids out there who are too quiet and never hurt a fly so how can we really assess where viewing, playing violence just for entertainment leaves off and committing it against a live human being starts? I don’t know…do you? For sure?

And true…personal responsibility DOES, indeed, mean a great deal more than many people want to believe these days. It always has but maybe more people believed that, in the past. No, I wouldn’t encourage my youngsters to be entertained by violence any more than I’d encourage them to smoke, drink, take drugs, watch porn or be promiscous for relaxation, entertainment or just to pass a few mindless hours. And I would bet everything I have that you would not, either. And the difference is…………??

By: amish electrician

amish electrician — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:20:25 +0000

“I ask againâ€¦what, exactly, is the point to such games as described (other than the player feeling like a winner because of how many he/she â€œtook outâ€)?”
The point of the manufacturer is to make money- the point of playing such games is entertainment. I don’t claim that they are wholesome- but I can’t believe that people actually blame games, music, movies etc…. for the violent world we live in.
As far as GOD, winning and whole milk- those are things the liberal creeps try to take away from our school kids. I just think personal responsibility still means something. Just a thought from a racist (as defined by University of Delaware).

By: Nancy Cleveland

Nancy Cleveland — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:21:08 +0000

Umm…RonR…I couldn’t very well slag tofu since I’ve been known to eat Tempeh (Yes! And liked it!)…LOL.

AE…that’s a relative no-brainer of a question but I will answer your question even though I did neither. Allowing a child to watch a violent…especially extremely violent, video game wins hands down. It would seem, on your already given comments, you wouldn’t agree but how do you justify that choice…such as violent video game. It is a choice and very often, particularly these days, some have no choice on the daycare issue. Maybe preference would be better employed…but the jusification still isn’t the same thing. Personally, I’ve done without rather than have someone else raise my child but I understand there are those who can’t even do that…not when it comes to providing the basics of living. Buying for and taking pleasure in one’s teenager playing a violent video game doesn’t quite come into that decision making. I’m not judging…it’s your child, your lives and I’m aware that there are kids who have played similar games which, to them, it has been just that…a game. But you never, as Perry pointed out, answered MY question. I don’t necessarily believe every thing a child does has to be educational, least of all game playing but violence isn’t even a natural ingredient to pleasure…is it? In our every day lives the majority of us abhor and will speak out against violence of any sort so why make an exception and “appreciate” it in play, entertainment, fantasy?

Perry, I did notice that and there are probably three reasons why it hasn’t been asnwered:

1) Still trying to find an answer and stumped
2) It’s a “guilty pleasure” and not exactly proud of their answer
3) Didn’t like the question in the first place.

How about it, boys…I answered your question, AE….

By: RonR

RonR — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:03:55 +0000

Yes, I’m kind of waiting for an answer also, but have dinner guests coming.Perhaps I’ll be surprised in the morning.

By: Perry

Perry — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:27:03 +0000

Yes, there does go credibility. I find it noteworthy, Nancy, that you haven’t yet received an answer to your question, asked twice.

By: RonR

RonR — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:32:48 +0000

He could have said tofu and made it worse.

By: amish electrician

amish electrician — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:02:36 +0000

Nancy- what is more detrimental to a child?

Sending him to daycare when he’s 3 months old, until he’s old enough to go to school, or,
allowing a teenager to play a violent video game.

By: Nancy Cleveland

Nancy Cleveland — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:31:07 +0000

Soy milk? Uggghhh! Well, there goes your credibility!

By: amish electrician

amish electrician — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:58:42 +0000

Soy Milk! I forgot soy milk- in our new GODLESS perfect world all the emasculated men and boys would drink soy milk.

Plans for the perfect world:
1. GODLESS
2. Scoreless soccer matches
3. Soy Milk