Bill Colley, McCainanite
February 19th, 2008 by Bill ColleyI’m joining the McCain camp. There have been a few weeks of careful consideration. In the past when I’ve faced this dilemma I’ve voted Libertarian and considered the Constitution Party. These outfits have an issue with war. McCain has no issues with the overriding challenge of our day. He wants to win. He doesn’t see surrender as an option. His two potential major party opponents are just warmed over Chamberlain. Come to think of it we’re at that point where in the 1940s and 1950s that many were talking accommodation with communists. McCain won’t accommodate. Ask the fellows who were his roommates at the Hanoi Hilton.Â
 We can lose this war. It’s a protracted conflict that is realistically centuries old but the enemies now have weapons that can alter the playing field.Â
Today the leftist columnist, Eugene Robinson, excoriated John McCain in a Washington Post piece seeking appeasement. From Robinson’s perspective McCain represents what has been wrong about America since its founding. White men have a lot of power. Never mind that if the early colonists had been green that green men would hold a great deal of power. For full disclosure I’m a middle aged white man. I should also note that middle to older aged white men have cured polio, eradicated smallpox and sent rocket ships to the moon.Â
From Robinson’s perspective white men are evil. White men impose western culture on peaceful regimes in Asia. The argument being the desperate Chinese, Burmese and al Qaeda need Obama to free their cultures as well as our own.Â
Let me tell you that without McCain, or other older white men, there won’t be healthcare, the Bill of Rights or free association. If we lose this war we’ll be subject to the whims of Asia and from what I’ve read the whims of Asia come with a yoke, a lash and sometimes the loss of limbs, organs and heads.
McCain also has enemies on the right. I’ve always believed a great deal of the anger from my peers to the right-of-center was masking other truths. McCain supported limiting the impact of money in political campaigns, yes, but money often corrupts the system. Damn McCain in his quest to find a solution. What effort did you make? McCain also opposes pork-barrel spending. Damn him again. Money spent on hippie museums could be better spent on armor for our troops. McCain went to war and paid a terrible price. I was at home playing with Tonka trucks. Where were many of McCain’s critics on the right?  Trick knees, studying in France and recruiting for The Church of Latter Day Saints. John McCain is a real man. His critics?Â
Immigration. Yes, I want controls if not a stone wall 75 feet high. I want English as an official language and you’ve got 12 months to learn the ropes. I want my culture to survive. McCain’s crime? He suggested the problem was very complex. So let’s adopt some of our own angry solutions and watch the courts shoot us down. Should we shelve the courts?  Then who will be the last arbiter when someone comes for your guns? When someone breaks down your doors in the middle of the night? When someone comes for your organs, your limbs or your head?
Call me a McCainanite. I’m not looking for the Promised Land. I’m voting for survival. To quote Christopher Hitchens writing of Churchill; He was right about the thing that mattered most. McCain can see the threat and knows the meaning of sacrifice.
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February 19th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Why base McCain’s suitability on “this war”? This is not a war…it was an invasion…an old word for “pre-emptive attack” based on a “parcel of a lies” dished out by one or more nations. Show me something, anything, that would justify it was right and proper to go after Iraq than Afghanistan or Saudi. I have no problem with having and supporting a military…as defence of any nation. Offense is another matter entirely. Yes, parhaps we have taken western culture to Asia; and we installed the Taliban, we supported Saddam Hussein until both their usefulness became jaded. We’ve supported Israel in many ways, including armaments. And we pick and choose. Middle Eastern/Islamics nor Asians have been the only ones to either attack us or threaten us with an attack. So did Israel and we’ve let them by with it…even rewarding them with more of the same A & A as we’ve done for decades. Survival doesn’t have to be…or shouldn’t be…for those willing to make the first strike with the biggest and most destructive of ‘toys’ so someone who is willing to dump more money we don’t have into bigger and better does nothing for me. Good luck being a McCainanite. At the same time, neither of the other two are promising so I guess we are back at the place in the book we were four/eight years ago…lesser of two(three) evils. But aside from semantics “lesser” still leaves as much to be desired.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
I could settle for McCain, although I won’t vote for him. I still don’t see why you kooks are so afraid of a couple of Jihadis with AK’s and homemade bombs. Your a fool Colley, how can we lose this war. Waves of turban wearing enemy swimming accross the Pacific to capture our women and children. What a dope. What exactly would happen to US if we pulled out tommorow? I question your claim of being libertarian.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Why would one turn his culture over to the islamists??? How about tightening up the borders to keep out the terrorists? Oh, Bush failed at that and none of the current candidates plan on doing it either. Again, I can’t believe you are so afraid of losing your culture to the islamists when in 20 years you’ll be ordering your pizza in spanish!
February 19th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Are we willing to shed more blood to end terrorism? We shed blood in defeating & executing Saddam Hussein. John McCain needs to get nasty & brutal with his party . McCain needs to come up with ideas to end terrorism - not extended it!! If some ideas result to the brutality range than McCain is the real patrotic. He needs to “JACKHAMMER” his critics & learn to take risk. I consider a possible gutsy move: invade Pakistan to snatch & grab or kill the terrorists. The Pakistan president loves practicing : ” POLITICAL BONDAGE ” - to other countries, preventing them from ending terrorism. I believe McCain is own of man ; that ticks off traditional conservative republicans & talk radio pundits like : Rush, Hannity, Ingraham & so-on. I like to see McCain give those naysayers; some good-ole fashion political Blackeyes because they deserve it. P.S. : I LIKE TO SEE BILL COLLEY & NANCY CLEVELAND GET IT ON & HAVE OLD FASHION DRAG-OUT, NO-HOLDS BARRED DEBATE ON BILL COLLEY’S 4-7 P.M. SHOW. I like to hear good-ole fashion scrapping between Libertarian & Republican. I don’t know if Dan Gaffney would sanction or not. Oh yes; this idea comes from a wildcard liberal; who’s willing to push boundries of complete taste!!!!!
February 19th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Sure, you get someone like McCain in and bloodshed won’t end anytime soon. Old men declare war, young men fight them…and who has the most to lose?
LOLOL! Under my skin you definately are not, Mr. Bill and, meatball…good question on Libertarianism. If he was, he would recognize others who are but maybe it’s easier to think of anyone not aligned with his particular views a “Leftie”. But hey, he can call me anything he wishes…except dishonest or a flip-flopper.
BTW…I doubt it was your oatmeal energizing you. For that to happen you need to eat steel-cut made with salt, no fruit, no sugar and, especially, no nuts.
February 19th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I heard the Grim Reaper was going to be on the ticket as his VP. ; )
February 20th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Regarding Iraq……Mr. Colley, I think you are correct.
I think McCain is a marginal choice on so many other issues. But regarding Iraq, I think he understands the nature of the conflict better than most.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/09/why_iraq_matters_to_me.html
February 21st, 2008 at 4:59 am
Bill , unfortunately Irag is but one part of the war on terror and national security. Another part and a rather large part is border security, which Sen. Mc Cain has a rather shady history on in my view.
I am not talking just about the immagrants coming here to work. If we have an open border policy then terrorist can come in just as easy. We must tighten the borders , and this includes the northern as well as the southern, but also ports and all entry points to this country. Or we may have people who will get in and want to do something much worse than just dry wall your new home.
This has nothing to do with how we get the already here crowd out, that is an immigration proplem, I am speaking right now only about security.
Immigration is another animal all together which the left uses to blurr the lines when we talk of closing the borders for security.
Another issue important to conservatives is the Bush tax cuts which Sen. Mc Cain voted against , but now says he is in favor of, how convenient. I have no confidence that he will fight to make them permanent. He has a long history of compromise with the left , and I feel this would only worsen if he became president and was working to build his legacy.
No I am sorry, but to Sen. Mc Cain I have to say C.R.A.M. , Conservatives , Republicans, Against , Mc Cain. This will mean losing the election but the party must relize that if it chooses to continue its travels to the left it will have to do it without the conservative base it has come to depend on and also it would seem to take for granted.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:32 am
The McCain-Iseman ticket should be interesting one since she has been a strong lobbyist for all those war profiteers. If you support a ‘100 year stay’ in Iraq; McCain would be your man. I DO ‘believe’ that seventy-five percent of Americans will make sure that NO republican enters our White House with a WAR agenda of lies. The majority of Americans are sickened by this senseless slaughter for oil spigots in Iraq; especially when all those oil spigots didn’t fund the war as promised!
Americans are clearly voicing their discontent for George W. As the Bush-Cheney regime of liars end, so will McCain’s quest for Power with Slaughter! Eighty-one percent of Americans want a dramatic change from the lies that led this country into massive debt with daily bloodshed. The majority of Americans want a breath of fresh air from viewing the worst president in the history of the United States of America. Billions upon billions are sent into Iraq with NO accountability while millions of Americans sink deeper and deeper into debt is NOT an option. McCain will lose and the majority of Americans will speak to all the lies for control and power. For the first time in his life; George W. will be the FIRST at something and the majority of Americans knew that impeachment would never stand because there will be overwhelming evidence that he-(George W.) is totally ‘incompetent’ to stand trial.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:30 am
The Bush budgeting has been a well documented travesty. This travesty has been aided and abetted by lawmakers such as McCain, who have gone along all the way. Instead of honestly accounting for the war’s costs and requesting the necessary funds to pay for them, the Bush Regime has routinely used “emergency†supplemental requests as a device to hide the truth. The true cost of this slaughter in Iraq will run American tax payers well over four-(4) trillion dollars. McCain has confessed that he doesn’t know much about economics.
Perhaps McCain should ask an real and truthful ‘economist’ to calculate the long term cost of occupying a country like Iraq for a hundred-(100) years! Occupying a country can cause ‘disastrous’ fiscal effect on any economy. Americans will ultimately have to pay back the trillions for these bogus Bush-McCain war claims’ of Iraq. Unfortunately, Americans are viewing more and more debt being piled on for succeeding administrations and generations to come!
February 21st, 2008 at 11:21 am
His 100yrs. comment was totally inane but no question I could see him keep us there until he has drummed up some fantasy of why “Now for Iran!”.